- (Below are emails, cut and pasted into this document, with formatting retained as much as possible. No changes have been made to the writings. This is the recent raw communications between Jerry Gentry and Larry Lasiter, bottom is oldest, top is newest, and all are in order and dated. This discussion of "Two Seeds" ended abruptly, as you will read below). Click here, to read emails in opposite sequence. Click here to read comments from others. Only those who have given permission are identified here.
- Nothing against the truth, but for the truth.
- From: Kenneth Lockhart <email@example.com>
- Date: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:54 AM
- To: Points of Truth Christian Ministries <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Subject: Re: Slander
- Dear Larry,
You have expressed yourself well. Nonetheless, I still hold Jerry in very high regard because I do understand where he is coming from. Remove me if you want, or keep me on your email list if you want. I find it entertaining, and maybe informative. I might even learn something. And I don't think it costs either of us 2 cents does it?
Because Jerry and I both do know where a lot (most) of the evil in this world emanates from, the false seed, if you will, that claim to be jews (Judahites; Edomites of mixed, very mixed descent, trying to get back the birthright), spoken of twice in the book of the unveiling, but they are of the household of the adversary (sawtawn, not necessarily a personal devil or Satan, a point where Jerry and I may differ yet again). There is a lineage in the world today, which includes the house of Roth (Rothschilds), and many others (Rockfellers, most modern day presidents, etc.) who lend (our own money to us) at usury and control the banking systems of this world, and who have monopolized the monetary systems; and thus the religio/politico/economico/war-machine system, the kings spoken of in the 2nd Psalm, who have duped all races, negroid, caucasion, mongaloid, oriental, etc, regardless of their origins (since I am not an evolutionist, I do not believe all races came from Adam btw, for to believe such, one would have to be an evolutionist). I am somewhat confused as to what Armstrong really believed concerning Anglo/Israel (often derogatorily referred to as British Israelism), but there are hundreds of volumes if not thousands, written concerning the migrations of the descendants of the "lost" Northern Israel tribes of the Assyrian Captivity. We do ourselves a great disservice by forgetting our roots. In America today, we are being taught to be ashamed to be "white", but to be "proud" if we are black or brown or anything else but white. This is a concerted effort on the part of the descendants of Esau/Edom to eradicate and/or breed out the sons of Jacob. I know whereof I speak. I have a half breed grandson, so don't speak to me about the joys of miscegenation!
- I condemned it before (as Yahweh did and does), and do so now. I don't disown my daughter for it; I love her, and I don't blame the grandson. He cannot help it. But I don't believe that his (deceased) sperm donor is a descendant of Adam, and you are going to have to go through an awful lot of mental hoops and gymnastics to try to proove otherwise. I commend to you a book written by a "non-seedliner", who served as a missionary (very futilely I might add, and has written a book on that as well) to the Phillipines. The book is titled DID ALL RACES COME FROM ADAM?, By Lawrence Blanchard. He, as I have for many years believed, also holds and believes that there were pre-Adamic races. To say they were "non-human" is a stretch, a judgement call, putting words in someone else's mouth. I cannot say for what purpose Yahweh has ultimately made them, but I can say with unfaltering certainty, that "Adam-mankind" was His crowning achievement which He declares throughout the scripture, and that is His Divine right to do so, and you do not have that right to take it away from Him, Larry Lassiter.
Now, as to whether Jerry snuck around, as you say; that is your claim. You said you want to put it to rest. So that is what I will do. You seem to have made it pretty public to me as far as I can tell, your claim to the contrary notwithstanding. However I do appreciate your attempt to placate me, and your words do sound very sincere, and I will do my best to accept them that way. Just remember this: YOU DO NOT HAVE IT ALL FIGURED OUT YET, Mr. Lassiter. Not in the slightest. You DO have a long way to go. Having come out of the WWCoG yourself (not me), I know you have a ways to go. I have seen the confusion of so many of the splinter groups. They all have their little kingdoms they are about. One way or another. Take heed to thyself.
Points of Truth Christian Ministries <email@example.com> wrote:
Thank you for writing and for expressing your feelings. I will remove you from our emailing list. You should understand something up front. Jerry is not the only person who has been hurt. Our entire congregation is hurt and they feel that he betrayed our trust. Mr. Lockhart, you do not know our congregation. You have not seen their pain and shock. When Jerry came to visit here (he told you about it himself and how we loved him) we opened our hearts and arms to him. I asked him to preach to our congregation and we all gave his entire family a big hug before they left. We feel used and abused! If you are going to care about the feelings of people then care about the feelings of all people. Beginning with me, I gave Jerry a big embrace the first time I saw him, and the congregation followed suit.
At the Feast Jerry spent some time with one of our new converts and brought up one of his differing beliefs. This upset the man and he asked Jerry if he still held that view but Jerry skirted the question. This man told me that as soon as he got home he started researching Jerry on the Web and almost stopped attending our church as a result. He has a wife and two children who attend with us. He began to think that we may have some of the same beliefs about black people as Jerry. Then it really raised an alarm when he saw me openly embrace Jerry and have him preach from my pulpit here in Russellville. This man thought that perhaps I had not been completely honest in some of our doctrinal positions and that maybe we did hold some of Jerry's beliefs which he had discovered on the web. This man found Jerry's web site and saw my name there and one of my sermons posted there. I had not given Jerry permission to post any sermons on his web site. In fact, I didn't even know he had a ministry web site until after he asked me to read the "Two Seeds" article.
One of our members named Walt Backer spent a lot of time with Jerry at the Feast and continued to stay in contact by phone afterwards. When Walt read the "Two Seeds" he was overwhelmed by shock and grief. He feels so betrayed by Jerry. He is convinced that Jerry deliberately kept his more extreme beliefs from him and from us. There was a lot of talk before the Feast, at the Feast and after the Feast, yet none of us here had a clue. That is not right or honest especially since he had accepted the invitation to preach twice. Walt has said that he feels that Jerry played us and was gaining our trust and friendship in order to introduce those beliefs which we hate.
This is not simply about me and Jerry. I introduced him to our church and to the church there in Texas. I vouched for him. One of the women in the Texas congregation told me that she had heard some things about Jerry that concerned her but that she put those concerns to rest when she saw him in my pulpit. I let my church down and I let those in Texas down by vouching for someone I really didn't know well. I should have checked Jerry out first but I didn't. But Jerry should have been honest enough with me to tell me that some of his beliefs were very different than ours.
You know what I believe about Jerry. That he is no brother of mine. I made no slanderous remarks about Jerry, check the record, Jerry did not deny any of the quotes or beliefs that I asked him to clarify or correct. I repeatedly asked him to state his views on Asians and Blacks, specifically, whether that are humans or primate races - I knew already what he thought about Jews. He never denied any of these beliefs. In fact, he admitted them and said that he has had these beliefs published and posted on the web for more than six years. It would have been nice if he had told me before he associated himself with me. It is a question of the beliefs Jerry is promoting through his web site. When we saw what he was advocating all of us here were shocked. You do not know anything about the relationship which developed between Jerry and I. At our Feast 2005 our entire church welcomed Jerry as a friend and a brother though we knew nothing about him. He had spent a lot of time at our web site before the Feast and we didn't even know he had a ministry site. He never told us. What we believe and where we stand is obvious to anyone who visits our site. Jerry knew that we had a ministry in Africa and that some of my closest friends were Africans. (he made that admission in an email) Jerry had told me repeatedly on the phone prior to the Feast that he was not happy with his past religious experiences and wanted to make a change to be more Christ-centered. I was happy to hear that and personally did not want to check out his "past." Had I known that his "present" thinking was not only evil (in my honest opinion) but that he was actually promoting what I consider to be doctrines of hatred -of course I would have told him that we were not compatible.
Mr. Lockhart, my adopted name is "Lasiter" which is Irish but my birth name is "Heppberger." My grandfather's parents migrated from Germany in the late 1800's. They were Catholic. If I have any Jewish blood I don't know it. But if I did I would certainly not be ashamed to be a descendant of the same tribe as my Savior. Aren't you being hypocritical by implying that I am being judgmental and at the same time making the judgment that I am from the seed of the evil one?
You know only one side of the story, and we understand that. Jerry is your friend and you are offended by our actions against him, we understand that too. I don't blame you for taking up for your friend - it is a noble thing to do. We thought he was our friend too. Everyone here is offended at how Jerry treated me which is only natural. You know Jerry -They know me. Did we betray his trust? Maybe, but if so it was only after he had betrayed ours. My actions were necessary to right the wrongs which I made in not checking Jerry out, and Jerry's wrongs for not being honest with us.
The emails which I shared was with only a handful here in Russellville and two people in the Texas Congregation. I only included you in that last mailing because you had made contact with our ministry through Jerry and I wanted you to know that I was no longer extending the right hand of fellowship to him. I did not know you were friends because when you left me a phone message you could not remember his name. I had to let the Texas congregation know that I no longer vouched for Jerry because of the recent disclosure of his two seeds teaching and beliefs concerning other races as being non-human. A number of them had been on our mailing list for years and had also attended the Feast with us.
Personally I have moved on to other things. I don't think about Jerry or the doctrines he holds. I am not committed to destroying Jerry or his "ministry." Now that everything is out in the open and is known that I have separated myself from him my job is done. I have already done what I needed to do. One of the ladies in Texas told me that Jerry still has my sermon up and has posted emails, articles etc at his web site. I don't visit his web site and I don't care one way or the other what he posts there since I have made my opinion known. I was moved to write "The Two Seeds Heresy" by this situation and to have it clearly posted at our web site to counter Jerry having my name at his site as if to imply that he and I were likeminded. I did not secretly infiltrate a congregation, Jerry did, and that is exactly how a wolf in sheep's clothing comes. A shepherd cannot worry about whether he hurts a wolf when he is trying to protect the Lord's flock. Jesus' most harsh words were for those who undermined the simple and sincere faith of His little ones. Paul openly named names when brethren went from sheep to wolves. He called some "ravenous wolves" (Acts 20) and to others "beware the dogs." I am sure some thought he was being judgmental and speaking slanderously as well.
You know that I am convinced that Jerry is a wolf. He believes that I am a wolf. God knows the truth. I am an ordained shepherd who will have to give an account for the Lord's Heritage. A shepherd is given a staff and a rod, and I will always strike any person whom I sincerely believe is a wolf. If I am wrong, God knows that I am sincerely wrong and knows that I am open to correction. I am sorry that you were involved at all and sorry if you were hurt also.
In Christ's Service, Larry R. Lasiter, Pastor
- From: Kenneth Lockhart <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:41 PM
- To: Larry Lasiter <email@example.com>
- Subject: Slander
- Dear Larry,
I just want to tell you that I do not appreciate your slanderous remarks against my brother Jerry Gentry, who happens to believe differently in some areas than I do. I am not convinced he is wrong or right, because I have not studied the issue out mister. I don't think you have either, or rather, I believe you have a vested interest. Perhaps you have jewish blood and you are protecting that interest? Or you have jewish kin? No matter. I just do not condone your spirit of condemnation.
Jerry never had that spirit towards you and you maliciously treated him. You wantonly maligned him. In so doing, you maligned the Name of Yahsua, my Saviour and Kinsman Redeemer, the Redeemer of All the Tribes of Yisrael. If you don't like that, if it is a tough piece of meat to chew and swallow, I am sorry, but that is the truth, and I don't apologize for the truth. If a few crumbs drop off the table for the puppies, they are entitled to it. But I will not see the kingdom taken away from His People, the scattered sheep of ALL ISRAEL. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. YOU ARE PROVING WHOSE SEED YOU REALLY ARE. I REALLY DON'T CARE IF YOU REMOVE ME FROM YOUR EMAIL LIST OR NOT. I know my brother and friend Jerry counts it all Joy to be maligned on behalf of Jesus Christ, his Kinsman Redeemer. Remember WHO you are maligning when you malign one of His own. And be careful when you set yourself up as a judge over the household of God. You are setting yourself up for a great fall.
- From: Edwin&Dxxxx <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:53 AM
- To: Edwin Mxxxxxxx <email@example.com>
- Subject: FW: Aramaic Bible translation reveals the truth about race-mixing
- -----Original Message-----
From: Tom [mailto: xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:18 PM
Although George Lamsa had apparent universalist tendencies, the revelations below are alone worth the price of admission to the Lamsa Bible. Witness what the Aramaic reveals about the real meaning of these passages from Leviticus. According to Lamsa, "passing seed through the fire to Molech" is a corrupted translation in these passages from Leviticus. Interestingly, there exist only three (3) other occurrences of "Molech" in the KJV Bible, and none of these is translated similarly to Leviticus in the Lamsa Bible. Now, who would want to mislead us as to the abominable nature of race-mixing...? These truths have been hidden from our people for much too long, and it is time to rectify the errors. Much thanks to Seth W. for sharing his insight.
YHWH bless, Tom K
Lev 18 (King James Version)
21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
Now, read what Lamsa's translation from the Aramaic reveals:
Lev 18 (Lamsa Bible)
21 You shall not let any of your semen be cast into a strange woman to cause her to be pregnant; neither shall you profane the name of your God; I am the LORD.
Witness again the same in Lev 20:
Lev 20 (King James Version)
1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2 Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.
3 And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.
4 And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not:
5 Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people.
Now, again, witness the same passage from Lamsa's Bible:
Lev 20 (Lamsa Bible)
1 And the Lord spoke to Moses,saying,
2 Say to the children of Israel, Any man of the children of Israel or of the proselytes who sojourn in Israel, who shall cast any of his semen into an alien woman, he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.
3 And I will pour out my anger against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he has cast his semen into an alien woman to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.
4 And if the people of the land do in any way ignore the offense of the man who has cast of his semen into an alien woman, that they may not kill him,
5 Then I will set my anger against that man and against his family, and will cut him off and all who go astray after him, because they go astray after alien women from among their people.
- On 1/26/06 1:53 PM, "James Bo Gritz" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Looks like yet another false-jew masked as an Israelite. Too bad there are so many with so much ignorance posing as Christians within our ranks -- it proves the parable of the tares. They will be with us until harvest time, then collected and burned. The sadness is in those elect who might be made less because of what our enemy has done. We must continue to pray for the salvation of the elect who have not yet been converted -- and justice for those who would steal-away and destroy the elect's birthright. How can a true Christian embrace false-jews and anti-Christs?
- Bo Gritz
- From: Kenneth Lockhart <email@example.com>
- Date: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:12 PM
- To: Jerry Gentry <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Subject: Fwd: Re: Nothing against the truth, but for the truth.
- Dear Jerry,
Thank you for the kind Spirit in which you answered Larry. Larry, it may interest you in knowing that Jerry and I do not see I to I (eye to eye) on every issue. Eye for myself (to be punnish, if you will excuse a little dry humor) just have not studied it out all the way, but not letting my lack of conclusions or inconclusions, or even a solid conclusion still does not keep me from the sweet fellowship I can still have with my brother with whom I might have a difference. Though I have not come to see the seedline issue the same as Jerry at this time, I do see the exclusiveness of Israel, yet Larry, I was willing to excuse your obvious ignorance on the race issue as I looked at your website.
And Larry, to be quite frank, I am not shocked, though I should be, at the vitrolic way you came out at Jerry. You came out at him at more than the nth degree that I have seen "some" dual seedliners come out against no seedliners. So who is really being the example here, no matter who is right?
When I received your CC of your letter to Jerry, it didn't take me very long to figure you out, and I didn't even really want to read the whole letter, being as ugly and hateful as it was.
Jerry, I commend once more your spirit, that you have not railed in like kind as Larry Lasiter has. Your speech indeed was seasoned as it were with grace, and the salt has not lost it's savor in your service to our Savior. Thank you for being a witness to the love and grace of the King of Israel. Perhaps that witness and testimony might even yet speak to Larry Lassiter if his heart not be too hardened, and he will repent of his hateful attitude and unjustified attack, not upon you, but ultimately Jerry, upon our Lord and Savior, Jesus the Christ, the King of Israel.