True Jews : Good Figs/Bad Figs


 In the book of Revelation Jesus has some dire warnings for the seven churches of God, in those chapters. Of course we all remember that those messages were to the seven angels of the seven churches and it was revealed to the apostle John while in exile on the Isle of Patmos and most scholars believe that was somewhere around 96 A.D. These were churches that existed in the province of Asia minor which we call Turkey today. They were considered to be part of the early New Testament church of God. Some of those were of course even visited by the apostle Paul. One of which was Ephesus where he even has a book written to the church in Ephesus.


In Revelation one verse one it talks about the revelation of Jesus Christ. Let's go back there now because if your bible is like my bible the beginning of the chapter is going to talk about the revelation of St. John the divine but that's not is the revelation TO St. John. It talks about "The revelation of Jesus Christ that God gave unto Him, to shew His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and He sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John," Now the word "signified" in the Greek means: a conveyance of truth by the means of signs and symbols. And the symbols must be interpreted either from something in context or some other scripture. This is perhaps why so many people feel that the book of Revelation is very difficult to understand because of the symbolic content which is there. Also because the verses and the statements made are sometimes difficult to understand in the context in which are being given here. Two of which I am going to bring to you today, that we are going to be making remarks on.


The first one, if you turn back to Revelation two in verse 9, these are very, very familiar scriptures, I'm sure. He says about the church in Smyrna "I know thy works and tribulation and poverty (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." And for many, many years I often wondered who is God or who is Christ talking about here. What is the key to this whole statement because He does the same thing in Revelation 3 in verse 9, this time talking to a church in Philadelphia, He says "Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie, behold, I will make them come worship before thy feet, and to know that I have love thee." Now the word "Jews" here is from the Greek word "Yehudim" or of the tribe of Judah and that is what He's talking about here. These "Jews" are also a part of the synagogue of Satan so this has to be something completely different from the actual tribe of Judah so it appears He is talking both of a physical and of a religious or spiritual application to the these particular verses. He refers to the blasphemy, which is injurious speaking, of them which say they are Jews, and are not.


So my questions are then "who are these people, these people who say they are Jews, and are not, who are of the synagogue of Satan and were identified in this manner by the man Jesus? Where do we get the term synagogue? Where did that come from?.... especially when we normally associate Judah and Israel with the temple? Why would God call His chosen ones imposters, them which say they are Yehudim, or Jews, and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan? Now before we think there were getting into a very anti-semitic sermon, let's get one thing straight right now, Jesus was not condemning the Jews as such, those of the tribe of Judah, but those who claimed they were Jews and were not. With that straight in our minds of right now, Jesus was talking to people who claimed that they were Jews and were not but of the synagogue of Satan, or rather, they were of the synagogue of Satan's operation. The word synagogue merely means an appointed place of meeting, that is all it means. That place where both the Jews and the Gentiles actually met on occasion but of course the Jews used it mainly on the Sabbath for teaching purposes. It was primarily used for religious matters on that particular day. So it appears these people were operating out of places normally used for religious reasons however remember it is just a meeting place in other words it is not like that temple was. It's not set at all like that temple was. However, in the church of Pergamos, Jesus said you dwell were Satan seat is, we bring something else in the sermon here, you dwell where Satan's seat is - where Satan headquarters is. What it really means is where he dwells or where his seat of operation of his religious system is. Revelation 2 and verse 12 "And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things say He Which hath the sharp sword with two edges; I know thy works and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: And thou holdest fast My name and has not denied My faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was My faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwellest,..." Notice the way He keeps saying "where Satan is"  and "where Satan dwells..." (where Satan's headquarters is) "... but I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balaac to cast a stumbling block before the children Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols and to commit fornication." Notice in verse 15 "So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicholaitanes which thing I hate." And so here we read where Jesus aligns His comments to Jezebel, to the Nicholaitanes and to Balaam, and these two are aligned with Satan, that is what He is talking about here. These are the religious symbolisms of the Old Testament perhaps that are brought into the New Testament which makes it so difficult for some to understand, but remember Jezebel was a Baal worshipper, wasn't she? You go back in the Old Testament and find out she even had her Priests, because those are the Priests that Elijah slew. So we find out that there was a system then that has been carried over from age to age, to use the term.


To the church in Ephesus Christ tells of people who say they are apostles. Now we are getting into the New Testament aspect of this, He talks about men who say they're apostles but my bible says that Christ calls them liar's. He says they're apostles but are not but rather liars or false apostles and Paul talked a lot about those in his ministries. If you go through the epistles of Paul, he is constantly talking about false apostles, as a matter of fact, he was actually following these false apostles as they were setting up their doctrines trying to put out the fires of the things - of the dissention they were causing within the churches of God but who is Christ referring to and what meaning can have for us in these days- these things? And is it of a physical or spiritual nature or is there some of both involved here?


When we read the epistles of Paul, the books of Jude, Peter, James and John which were written to the church of God, the warning of false apostles and ministers is always evident -it is always there. Men claiming to represent Christ and His doctrine but who Christ declares were liars and false apostles. Jesus tells us that "He who has an ear..." or in other words, those who have the truth,"...let him hear" or let them understand. You know, a lot of people could read through these chapters of the book of Revelation and throughout the bible and not understand but He says if you have the truth, you should be able to understand. We have truths that the world doesn't necessarily understand at this particular time because God has not opened their minds to understand. So we have here then, Jews- that are not Jews, apostles - who are not apostles and a doctrine that is a false message in the churches of God. You think you're having problems today in the churches of God then just go back there, in that particular time before the year 100AD. You'll find some real problems, to the point, where some of the terrible sexual doctrines were bring brought out of Baalim into the churches of God. So maybe we've just hit the tip of the iceberg, so far, perhaps in the future we do not know what is ahead of us.


We have here a movement that was designed by Satan many, many millennia ago to destroy God's plan, to destroy God's people Israel and Judah, to destroy God's church, an even to His ministry (which he is doing a very good job of today), and who engineered even the death of Christ who was the head of the church (of the body). Going back to the book of Genesis and to Adam and Eve, we saw that Satan almost immediately began this attack and did his best to destroy Christ ,not just physically, but as the spiritual head of the church of God and has continued to do so today through the same types of people. This is still going on. I want to show you how the attack became prevalent and how Satan began to infiltrate God's people with another people, when he began to counterfeit the Torah or "the law of Moses", the first five books of the bible, which included, by the way, the 10 Commandments. Just like he is counterfeiting the bible today with many of the false translations have been coming out. A lot of people are caught up in this New International Version which has 54,000 less words than the King James has, which actually renders or neuters... if I can use the term, the word Father. We can read in both history and in the bible of how Shalmaneser, who was the king of Assyria, attacked the northern part of Israel in about 721 B.C. and this is when it all really began to happen. Israel was taken captive and led away into exile where they lost their identity that is why we're referred to today as the lost ten tribes of Israel, even Christ referred to them as such. What is not generally known is that thousands of the tribe of Judah were also taken captive at that time. Most people think that all of Judah went to Babylon and that is not true, many thousands of them were taken up by King Shalmaneser in his attack clear back in 721 B.C.! Assyrian history says that somewhere upwards of 200,000 Judeans, or those of the tribe of Judah, could have been taken in this particular captivity. And of course we know that the Israelites, as they made their extensive travels, went up through the Black and Caspian seas and eventually just lost their identity completely. A lot of people don't even know that they are possibly Israelites today who very well could be.  About 605 B.C. we can again read, from the Bible and history, how Nebuchadnezzar who was the king of Babylon, not King Shalamaneser, attacked the nation of Judah in southern Palestine, now Shalamaneser attacked Northern Palestine. Nebuchadnezzar attacked Southern Palestine and this attack took several years, actually. He besieged the city of Jerusalem for many years. The taking into captivity of these people were taken over years at a time, it wasn't all done in one fell swoop, but groups were taken a little at a time.  We can read how Nebuchadnezzar besieged Jerusalem and eventually captured that city as well as others in Judah after several years of the besieging of it. In the defeat of Judah, which also included some of the tribes of Benjamin and Levi (remember they went with Judah, when the tribes were split, most of them went with Judah) Nebuchadnezzar only took about 10 to 12,000 Judeans, believe it or not, back captive into Babylon. This included King Jeconiah and his princes and his heirs, most of the tradesmen and professional people, and quite a few of the best of the Army, the generals and the best of the officers were taken, as well as some of the Levitical priesthood because the people wanted to keep their priesthood intact. Some of the scribes went back with them, who were recorders or secretaries. But why would Nebuchadnezzar take only 10-12 thousand people, had Shalamaneser truly taken many Judeans with him along with the other ten tribes of Israel maybe hundred of years before that? Well, we will find out a lot about this before we are through here. This Babylonian captivity was to last seventy years, However not all of Judah was taken captive, a remnant of people were left behind in Southern Palestine. They included the common people, if I may use that term, and some of the Levitical priests so they could continue the temple service, such as it was because by now it had become quite corrupt. Now at this time I want to read two little, or very, misunderstood chapters or verses in the bible. Lets go back to the book of Jeremiah, turn with me back there. Brethren, I am going to tell you something, I am going to take you on an fascinating journey now for the next few minutes. Something you may have never understood before but is becoming clear now to a lot of us who are beginning to study into it. Jeremiah 24 verse 1: 

Jer 24:1- "The LORD shewed me, and, behold, two baskets of figs were set before the temple of the LORD, after that Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon had carried away captive Jeconiah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah, and the princes of Judah, with the carpenters and smiths, from Jerusalem, and had brought them to Babylon."


One basket had very good figs, even like the figs that are first ripe:(now these were the best of the crop- these were the people that he was talking about here- the top people of Judah)and the other basket had very naughty (or very bad)figs, which could not be eaten, they were so bad.(In other words they were on the verge of being rotten; they were so bad)3 Then said the LORD unto me, What seest thou, Jeremiah? And I said, Figs; the good figs, very good; and the evil, very evil, that cannot be eaten, they are so evil. Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 5 Thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel; Like these good figs, so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of Judah, whom I have sent out of this place into the land of the Chaldeans (notice this)for their good.(How many times do you take a nation captive for their own good? This is something that God is doing for the top people of the tribe of Judah) Jer 24:8 "And as the evil figs, which cannot be eaten, they are so evil; surely thus saith the LORD, So will I give Zedekiah the king of Judah, and his princes, and the residue of Jerusalem, that remain in this land, (these are people who are not taken captive-Zedekiah is one of them)and them that dwell in the land of Egypt: And I will deliver them to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places whither I shall drive them.(This is well into the future- Here is a curse that God is placing on the remnant of those who are left in the land of Judah who were not taken captive)Jer 24:10 And I will send the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, among them, till they be consumed from off the land that I gave unto them and to their fathers.


Lets pick this up in Jer 29:1 Now these are the words of the letter that Jeremiah the prophet sent from Jerusalem unto the residue of the elders which were carried away captives, and to the priests, and to the prophets, and to all the people whom Nebuchadnezzar had carried away captive from Jerusalem to Babylon;(After that Jeconiah the king, and the queen, and the eunuchs, the princes of Judah and Jerusalem, and the carpenters, and the smiths, were departed from Jerusalem;) Jer 29:4 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, unto all that are carried away captives, whom I have caused to be carried away from Jerusalem unto Babylon;(Notice this, this seems a crazy thing, why would you do this with a captive people? Notice what he says to them here:) 5 Build ye houses,(where? In Babylon)and dwell in them; and plant gardens, and eat the fruit of them;(In other words, You go in there and live just as you were living back in Judah and Jerusalem while you are in captivity. These people are really going into captivity but are kind of under house arrest but are allowed to live like they did back in Judah.)6 Take ye wives, and beget sons and daughters; and take wives for your sons, and give your daughters to husbands, that they may bear sons and daughters; that ye may be increased there, and not diminished.(In other words, I do not want you to die out there in Babylon I want you to continue on as a nation , as Judah.) 7 And seek the peace of the city whither I have caused you to be carried away captives, and pray unto the LORD for it: for in the peace thereof shall ye have peace.(Ask God for peace and He'll give you peace even in captivity) Jer 29:8 For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Let not your prophets and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither hearken to your dreams which ye cause to be dreamed. 9 For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the LORD. For thus saith the LORD, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place.


Let us go down to Jer 29:15 Because ye have said, The LORD hath raised us up prophets in Babylon; 16 Know that thus saith the LORD of the king that sitteth upon the throne of David, and of all the people that dwelleth in this city, and of your brethren that are not gone forth with you into captivity;(Now He is talking about those who are left behind back in Judah.)17 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will send upon them the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, and will make them like vile figs, that cannot be eaten, they are so evil.(Two different groups of people out of the same nation. One who are good figs and one who are bad figs. The good figs are going into captivity yet will live almost as good as they did in Judah. And here is another group who stayed in Judah and will become a byword, in a sense, because He calls them the bad figs/evil figs.)


Jer 29:18 And I will persecute them with the sword, with the famine, and with the pestilence, and will deliver them to be removed to all the kingdoms of the earth,(As we get on into this you will find how this prophecy was fulfilled)to be a curse, and an astonishment, and an hissing, and a reproach, among all the nations whither I have driven them: 19 Because they have not hearkened to my words, saith the LORD, which I sent unto them by my servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them; but ye would not hear, saith the LORD.


Let us go on now in II Kings continuing on this same line of thought. 2Ki 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem. And he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD, according to all that his father had done.10 At that time the servants of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came up against Jerusalem, and the city was besieged.(Now here is the story all over again that we just went through talking about the captivity of these people.)11 And Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came against the city, and his servants did besiege it. 12 And Jehoiachin the king of Judah went out to the king of Babylon, he, and his mother, and his servants, and his princes, and his officers: and the king of Babylon took him in the eighth year of his reign. 13 And he carried out thence all the treasures of the house of the LORD, and the treasures of the king's house, and cut in pieces all the vessels of gold which Solomon king of Israel had made in the temple of the LORD, as the LORD had said. 14 And he carried away all Jerusalem, and all the princes, and all the mighty men of valor, even ten thousand captives,( The total number is backed up here)and all the craftsmen and smiths: none remained, save the poorest sort of the people of the land. (exactly the way it was in the book of Jeremiah.) 15 And he carried away Jehoiachin to Babylon, and the king's mother, and the king's wives, and his officers, and the mighty of the land, those carried he into captivity from Jerusalem to Babylon. And all the men of might, even seven thousand, and craftsmen and smiths a thousand, all that were strong and apt for war, even them the king of Babylon brought captive to Babylon.(So, here we have just a few out of the tribe of Judah that we are talking about. In times past, I used to think that the whole nation of Judah went into captivity - that is what was taught to me but the bible says No, there was only about 10 thousand people. There may have been several hundred thousand in captivity about a 100 years earlier when the Israelites were taken captive.)


You may want to go through this whole chapter. 2Ki 25:12 But the captain of the guard left of the poor of the land to be vinedressers and husbandmen.(To keep the land from falling apart) Lets notice in 2Ki 25:22 And as for the people that remained in the land of Judah, whom Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon had left, even over them he made Gedaliah the son of Ahikam, the son of Shaphan, ruler.(So these people then had people over them.Now you might want to put Jeremiah 52:28-30 where it backs up these figures of about 10 thousand people.)


 There are three different places now where we can prove that only a small smattering of people went into Babylon. Some remained however and this was done over a period of several years not all at once. Nebuchadnezzar came and in took several different groups at different periods of time, all ten thousand did not go at once. It was the good figs who went into the Babylonian captivity and this was to protect them from something that would have happened to them in the future. That was not an imprisonment as we know captivity but was actually more like being under house arrest. Remember how Daniel got to be one of the mighty men, one of the rulers?  What about Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego? What about some of the others like Ezra and Nehemiah? What about some of the other men who lived there in Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar and were allowed to progress and grow strong as a people again both religiously and physically.  The bad figs however remained in Judah, which was Palestine, God had other plans for them.  This plan involved worldwide captivity but would be far into the future.  In Jeremiah 29 he says into all the nations of the earth they would be scattered and be a reproach unto these nation's. This would coincide with how not all of Israel went into the Assyrian captivity. Just like all of Israel did not go into captivity all of Judah didn't go into captivity either.  In the captivity of the Israelites, the Israelites that remained in northern Palestine actually they married with the other groups of people that Shalmaneser, the king of Assyria, brought into the land of Palestine. The mixture of these people with the remainder of Israel became the Samaritans and the land became known as Samaria.


You are going to find out now why these people in southern Palestine had such a problem with the people in northern Palestine. It is all going to come out in this sermon you will find as we go along.  Also, there remained a contingent of Judah left behind called the bad figs. These people became known as Jews.  This is not a derogatory term as it is used today when some people spit out the name Jew perhaps, there are some of us who might have a problem in that respect.  The word Jew here only meant little Judah or remnant of Judah.  This is when it began to first be used as a term recognizing a nation.  If you go to Jeremiah 3 Ezekiel 37 and Ezekiel 23 you will find that God always referred to Israel and Judah as nations.  It wasn't until after the Babylonian captivity that he began to refer to these people as Jews.  Very interesting point.  But these were people who were left behind, these were people who were not taken into captivity.  They became known as little Judah or remnant of Judah.  The fact is that both Israel and Judah were in exile and captivity before the name Jew was ever applied to this remnant that remained behind.  Samaria was what was left of the ten tribes of Israel now intermarrying with other nations brought into Palestine by Shalmaneser and those are what we call the Samaritans.  What God is saying is that here are the Jews or little Judah, the remnant of Judah that is left in southern Palestine just like a group of Israelites was left in northern Palestine, a group of Judians was left in southern Palestine.  And if this little Judah, which is more evil than those that went into exile in Babylon.  So you might say that the bad figs were then the ones who were called the remnant of Judah or what we refer to as Jews.  What did these people do, or what did this remnant do or what had they done and when did they do it or was it something they were going to do in the future.  Who and what were responsible for their acts, in other words, who was involved in this and what did God have in store for them in the future. 


At this point, we have to digress for just a moment to bring the picture into focus.  We need to remember then that God began all this with a covenant with Abraham. All these people did not exist had it not been for Abraham, right? From his loins came all of these people. This covenant was a promise that was passed on from Abraham to his son Isaac and to Isaac's son Jacob who later became known as Israel. This included the birthright which was usually reserved for the eldest or the first born son. We have to repeat something here that is very important. Ishmael of the Egyptian Agar was legally, by law, Abram's first born son. I have a paper here that will even back that up. A paper that was in the Arizona Republic just a couple of weeks ago. But he was legally the first born son, but not according to God. In Genesis 22 he says that Isaac was thine only son, in verse 12. Take Isaac thine only son. So Ishmael was not the son that was promised by God to Abraham and Sarai. It was Isaac. However, God did not forget Ishmael. And in Genesis 21 we can read about how Ishmael would become then the father of a mighty nation. God called them a wild ass nation. Which are known today as the Arab nations. People say themselves who they are. They recognize who they are. They call themselves the children of Abraham because that's who they are. But they are out of Agar. They are not out of Sarai.


Alright, now as we keep going on this, Esau was Isaac's first born, was he not?  Esau was Isaac's first born and legally he too was in line for the birthright promises. Esau forfeited this birthright and he sold it to Jacob. He came back from hunting, he was starving to death.  He said, what good is this birthright if I'm going to die, so give me the bowl of soup.  So he had the bowl of soup.  Now by subterfuge, Jacob received the blessing from Isaac but he would not have had to have done this because this happened at the time that both of them were being born.  When Jacob laid hold of Esau's heel as he was being born?  He was going to usurp that and God said this is the way I want it to be. God did plan for Jacob to always be the receiver of the blessing and the birthright.


Now, if you have any knowledge of the Koran of Islam, it states that Ishmael was the first born of the Abram and that they are the rightful owners of Palestine or the promise land.  Now you wonder why there are so many problems over there in the Middle East?  You have the Arabs, who say, hey Abram's our father, this is ours.  But you can see how this is going to happen with other people, too, can't you?  Because Esau, whose descendants became known as Edom or Edomites, they also said hey, no this is ours.  I was the legal first born son of Isaac.  Therefore, the land should be mine.  The leader Esau saw the enormity of his error and down through the ages he has tried to get his birthright back.  Let's go back to Hebrews 12.  Paul even referred to this.  I'm giving you nothing new here that Paul and some of these apostles didn't already know.  Hebrews 12, let's start at verse 15.  He says, Looking diligently that any man fails in the grace of God, lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you and thereby many be defiled.  Lest there be any fornicator or profane person such as Esau who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. (See, Paul knew about this.) Afterwards he would have inherited the blessing he was rejected where he found no place of repentance though he sought it carefully with tears.  Once he got his belly full he said, "What have I done?  What have I done?"  And down through the ages, Esau has been trying to get his birthright back, just as Ishmael has been trying to get his birthright back.  And you have all these people at each other's throat over this plot of ground which is called the Promise Land.  Esau became known as Edom.  So any time you see the name Edom in your Bible it is referring to the people who were Esau.  The word Edom has very interesting color to it, because it means red.  I think they said that Esau sold his birthright for a bowl of red soup, which I think was lentil soup.  There are some other things I might bring out later on as far as the color red is concerned.



Let's go to Joshua 15.  We find out where Edom dwells, where they were strategically on the map, so to speak.  In verse 1 of Joshua 15 this then was the lot of the tribe of the children of Judah by their families even to the border of Edom, the wilderness of sin southward was the uttermost part of the south coast and their south border was from the shore of the Salt Sea from the bay that looketh southward.  So you can almost go and pinpoint where the land of Edom was at that particular time.  They were as close to the Promise Land as they could possible get.  They were butted right up against it.  They were right there.



Esau has a grandson whose name was Amalek.  He was the result of Eliphaz.  I don't know if this is the same Eliphaz who was the friend of Job or not.  But Eliphaz had a union with a prostitute.  You read about that in Genesis 36 in Verse 12.  Through this union Amalek was born, so Amalek was the son of a prostitute in a sense.  In other words, it was Amalek from Esau who tried to block the passage of Israel from Egypt to the Promise Land.  Now I'm bringing all this in so that you get some kind of an idea of where all this is heading. 


Let's go back to Numbers, the 20th chapter.  This is one of the most fascinating studies I think I have ever done in my life.  I hope you'll find it the same way.  Numbers 20 in Verse 14 And Moses sent messengers from Kadesh unto the king of Edom, Thus saith thy brother Israel, Thou knowest all the travail that hath befallen us: 15 How our fathers went down into Egypt, and we have dwelt in Egypt a long time; and the Egyptians vexed us, and our fathers:(This was well known stuff.  All the people that here you knew that the Israelites were in slavement in Egypt.  This was known throughout all the lands around the Mediterranean and Red Sea.)   16 And when we cried unto the LORD, he heard our voice, and sent an angel, and hath brought us forth out of Egypt: and, behold, we are in Kadesh, a city in the uttermost of thy border: 17 Let us pass, I pray thee, through thy country: we will not pass through the fields, or through the vineyards, neither will we drink of the water of the wells: we will go by the king's high way, we will not turn to the right hand nor to the left, until we have passed thy borders.( We won't touch anything.  We'll just move right on through your borders so you will never even know we've been there.  And Edom said, you won't pull through here. )18 And Edom said unto him, Thou shalt not pass by me, lest I come out against thee with the sword. (You even come close and I'll cut you.  We'll come out with our swords and we'll finish you off once and for all.  We'll do what the Egyptians failed to do.)  19 And the children of Israel said unto him, We will go by the high way: and if I and my cattle drink of thy water, then I will pay for it: I will only, without doing any thing else, go through on my feet. 20 And he said, Thou shalt not go through. And Edom came out against him with much people, and with a strong hand. 21 Thus Edom refused to give Israel passage through his border: wherefore Israel turned away from him. The bad blood was still there between Esau and Jacob.  Esau had never forgotten this.  Remember how Jacob and Esau got together, but it was not a good union.  They had gotten together but that was always in Esau's craw and it was passed right down through his generations so even Amalek,Eliphaz, all of them have this same problem of what had happened to him.  The bad blood continued.  During the days of Samuel, God told King Solomon, I want you to utterly destroy all these Amalekites, what they did to Israel.  I want them destroyed right down to every man, woman and child and yes, even the animals.  I want the whole thing wiped out.  But what did he do?  He didn't do it, did he?  He didn't do it, and that was a big, big mistake.  Because David and Solomon had problems with those descendants all throughout their reign, all throughout the reigns of Esau, David and Solomon had problems with them.


Now we get back to the siege of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar.  Esau or Edom cast lots for the city even before it fell.  Now this should give you some idea of what these people are like and how much they hated the people of Judah and Israel.  But they knew that eventually Nebuchadnezzar was a powerful, world ruling empire in the sense that he controlled a lot of land and territory even in Egypt.  They knew it was just a matter of time before Jerusalem was going to fall, they began to cast lots - here's the part of Jerusalem we want, we want this part over here, we want this part over there.  Let's notice what Obadiah has to say about that.  Over the book of Obadiah after the book of Amos, and this is very much like the book of Jude, it's only one chapter long, but it is packed full of stuff.  It is a fantastic chapter.  Obadiah in Verse 6.  Notice who he is talking about right off the bat.  How are the things of Esau searched out!  So right away we're talking about Esau or Edom.  How are hidden things sought up! 7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him. 8 Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau? 9 And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter. 10 For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever. That's the reason why he's doing this.  Hold your fingers here now and let's go back to the Book of Joel.


Joel 3, Verse 19.  He says in verse 19, Egypt shall be a desolation and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness.  Why?  For the violence against the children of Judah because they have shed innocent blood in their land but Judah shall dwell forever and Jerusalem from generation to generation.  So Edom was to become a desolation because of the violence the performed against their brother.  In this case it was Judah.


All right, let's go back to Obadiah again and this time we will start in Ob 1:11 In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them. Even if the King of Babylon was coming in and taking captive all these people and taking the precious metals and the gold and stuff, he says, you were standing there waiting to get your turn.  You had already cast your lots on what you wanted. Ob 1:12 But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.  In other words, I'm glad they got what they got.  That's what Esau was saying about Judah.  He says he should never have done that Esau.  You should never have done it.  Ob 1:13 Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity; 14 Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress. 15 For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head. In other words, you're going to get exactly what you did to Judah.  The same thing is going to happen to you.  Your reward shall come down upon your own head.


Let's notice in Verse 18.  Ob 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, In other words, that's going to be a mighty nation.  and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it. 19 And they of the south shall possess the mount of Esau; and they of the plain the Philistines: and they shall possess the fields of Ephraim, and the fields of Samaria: and Benjamin shall possess Gilead. Here is something against this nation because of what they had done to Judah.


All right, let's go back now to Jeremiah, 49th chapter.  There is so much in here about this particular story that it is just absolutely fascinating.  Jeremiah, at 49 Verse 7.  Once again now, we are talking about Esau here.  Concerning Edom.  Jer 49:9 If grapegatherers come to thee, would they not leave some gleaning grapes? if thieves by night, they will destroy till they have enough. 10 But I have made Esau bare, In other words, even if the people would leave something behind, I'm leaving nothing behind.  I have uncovered his secret places, and he shall not be able to hide himself: his seed is spoiled, and his brethren, and his neighbours, and he is not. 13 For I have sworn by myself, saith the LORD, that Bozrah shall become a desolation, (Bozrah was the capital of Edom.) a reproach, a waste, and a curse; and all the cities thereof shall be perpetual wastes. Notice in verse 17 Also Edom shall be a desolation: every one that goeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss at all the plagues thereof. 18 As in the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the LORD, no man shall abide there, neither shall a son of man dwell in it.Now he is putting the same curse on Edom that he put on Sodom and Gamora.  No one knows what those cities are today, do they?  That's the way it's going to be with Esau.  No one is ever even going to know they existed.  That's what is going to happen to these people.  I didn't say that. 20 Therefore hear the counsel of the LORD, that he hath taken against Edom; and his purposes, that he hath purposed against the inhabitants of Teman: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out: surely he shall make their habitations desolate with them. 22 Behold, he shall come up and fly as the eagle, and spread his wings over Bozrah: and at that day shall the heart of the mighty men of Edom be as the heart of a woman in her pangs.  Let's notice in Jeremiah 48:24.  He talks about some of the cities here, but notice Verse 24 he's talking about Kerioth, we're going to get into that a little bit later on and find out who this Kerioth and what it is. And upon Kerioth, and upon Bozrah, and upon all the cities of the land of Moab, far or near. What we are talking about here are individuals who got involved with something they shouldn't have and God is pronouncing a curse on these people.


Let's move ahead to Ezekiel, the 25th chapter.  We'll keep piling up the curses now that God is putting on Edom.  Ezekiel 25:12 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because that Edom hath dealt against the house of Judah by taking vengeance, and hath greatly offended, and revenged himself upon them; 13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also stretch out mine hand upon Edom, and will cut off man and beast from it; and I will make it desolate from Teman; and they of Dedan shall fall by the sword. 14 And I will lay my vengeance upon Edom by the hand of my people Israel: and they shall do in Edom according to mine anger and according to my fury; and they shall know my vengeance, saith the Lord GOD.   


Let's go back to Isaiah 34.  I'm bringing this chapter in because now they are going to find out the name has changed again.  First it Esau, then it's Edom and now we've got another change, but it's the same people.  Another change is being made here. Isa 34:5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, (Remember that name, Idumea.) and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.  Isa 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea. Bozrah was the capital of Edom.  It was the capital of what is called Idumea.  He says in Verse 8 For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion. So we've got here the Lord's vengeance once again, but now the name Idumia comes into play, as well as Esau and Edom.  Isaiah 63, he says, Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save. Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, (That was Esau's color, red.  That was the color of Edom, the color of Bozrah, the capital.) and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?


Ezekiel 35 Verse 15.  He is building up a case here now. As thou didst rejoice at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, O mount Seir, and all Idumea, even all of it: and they shall know that I am the LORD. In Eze 36:5 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey. There is still more about Edom and Esau that is pertinent to us today.


Let's go back to Malachi, the last book of the Old Testament.  Mal 1:1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi. 2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, But notice in Verse 3 And I hated Esau, (God is speaking here now. I loved Jacob but I hated Esau) and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. And now notice Edom or Esau's retort back to God.  You wonder why God's got a problem with this individual?  Notice His words here in verse 4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; (In other words, what can God do to us if we intend to do it all over again. ) thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.(In other words, you can build it up but I'm just going to come in and tear it right back down again.  God is going to show these people who is God.  And your eyes shall see it.) Mal 1:5 And your eyes shall see, and ye shall say, The LORD will be magnified from the border of Israel. So throughout history, Esau and Edom have been an adversary to God and to the people of God.  Even Paul said in Ro 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. He quoted from Malachi one.  You see Paul knew all of this.  He understood all of this.  He understood who these people were in this New Testament church and the people who plagued Jesus Christ throughout his ministry.  Because of Esau's arrogance and sin and defying God, God had given him a very special place in history and that was to be one of Jacob's adversaries.  And the individual who would be over this particular nation was also considered an adversary.  He plagued Israel and he plagued the church both physically and religiously right down through the ages. 


Now comes an interesting part of history.  Following the conquest of Jerusalem and Judah by Babylon, a number of Edomites moved into the vacated regions of south Palestine and Judah.  But once King Nebuchadnezzar moved these out, it was just a remnant of the Jews that were left and immediately Edomites began to move in.  Why?  The birthright.  Now was their chance at the Promise Land and they didn't waste any time taking it.  There was no longer a king in Judah.  The one who was there was a puppet.  He was a joke and as a matter of fact be ended up getting his eyes put out by Nebuchadnezzar.  They were in exile and only a remnant of Jews were left and that was called Little Judah.  Later there was going to be an additional migration of Edomites into Palestine and this was because of the people of Nebajoth who were the first born of Ishmael.  So the Arabs and the Edomites were also at each other's throats at the same time and the Nebajothians, in a sense, had it over the Edomites.  The Edomites fled into Palestine to get away from the people of the Arab nations here and they fought against the Edomites.  You can read that in Genesis 25, First Chronicles 1, and Isaiah 60.  All those chapters refer to this battle.  So you have Arabs, you have Edomites and Jews and Israelites of the tribe of Esau, all these people claiming that Palestine was their's and claiming it up to this day in the 20th century, they are still making this claim.


By the time of the Greek occupation of this territory, after the fall of Babylon and Persia, now remember that Babylon fell, afterwards we had Persia, it fell, and then, of course, you had the Grecian Maceodian empire.  Southern Judah was being called Idumia.  Why?  Because the Edomites had moved in, and what was their name?  Idumia.  And therefore, the whole nation was getting this name Idumia.  This little Judah, or the remnant of Judah, which we have referred to as Jews.  And this is all out of the Antiquities of the Jews by Josephus, He records that in his book.  This also included the cities of Hebron and Kerioth.  Both cities which I know you recognize as cities in the Bible.  With the occupation of southern Judah the Jews or little Judah, the Edomites began to intermarry with these Jews.  Very much like the Israelites intermarried with the people that were brought into their country as well.  They began to intermarry with those that did not go into Babylon and so these people then are known as the bag figs even to some of the Levities that were still in the temple service that were left behind but who had by now become very corrupted.  They even had been intermarried with the Edomites.  In Malachi 3:3 God talks about purifying the sons of Levi.  He did this all from the days of Hezekiah and Josiah.  That's one of the reasons why He had to do this.  Once again, according to Josephus, he says many of these people's family names were now of semi-Edomite and south Palestinian origins and were of non-Israelite origins.  Even their last names were no longer Israelite.  They had become the names of Esau and the Edomites.  So we seem to be getting down not only physically and politically, but religiously as well, of a union between number one, the southern clans of little Judah and Edom, between the temple personnel, which involved the Levites, and between the families of the scribes and the writers of Levi.  All those people were involved in this. 


History tells us they had no king over them at this particular time.  There is no king now over them.  The man that they had was taken over and was disposed of as king.  And about that time there was a high priest who was left in Jerusalem and he was accepted as their leader in all political, military and religious matters.  This is what Josephus said.  He is very much like the pope's of the middle ages.  He controlled everything.  That's what this high priest was doing.  Once such priest was one called John Hyrcanus who conquered Idumea and forced the men at Edumia, to do what? ... To be circumcised.  See the Edomites had not been circumcised.  There was not covenant with them and Abraham, was there?  But one of the first things he did was force these Edomites who had become Idumeans to circumcised and to adopt Jewish laws and customs.  He also says that hereafter these Edomites became none other than Jews or little Judah the remnant of Judah.  Josephus says this in his history books.  Those not in the Babylonian captivity, they too are losing their national identity much as the ten tribes of Israel have lost theirs.  The entire community of Idumean Edomites became in a sense proselyte Jews.  That's what it boiled down to.  Herod the Great was an Edomite Jew.  Most bible scholars know that.  Judas of Kerioth.  You might say- No, you said it wrong, it's Judas Iscariot.  No it isn't.  It's Judas of Kerioth, which the words mean the same, is an Edomite Jew.  Isn't that strange.   That an Edomite Jew would be the one who would betray the Eternal, Jesus Christ.  He was not of Galilee as were all the other Apostles.  He was the odd-ball, if you can say that, of all the Apostles.  Remember Edom settled in Hebron in southern Palestine which is also called Kerioth(Iscariot). 


Well, Satan had now begun to truly use Esau as an adversary of Israel and he also had a hand in the murder of Jesus the Messiah whom they refused to acknowledge as their Messiah.  This really gets deep in here as we go on.  Now comes the truly fascinating part.  Revelation 2 and 3.  Those who say they are Jews but are not, those who are false Apostles and are liars.  We are still talking about Edomite Jews and if so, how could they have infiltrated the Sanhedrin and the churches of God and what was their purpose in doing so.  This was many years later on into the future.  After all the church appears hundreds of years later.  Were these people of influence and power, those ones who were infiltrating the church, you better believe they were.  They were of great influence and power.  Did Christ also confront these Idumeans perhaps now posing as spiritual leaders?  Yes He did.  Almost on a daily basis.  At this point you have to realize that number one we have seen a remnant of Judah, little Judah or Jews whose country had been invaded and infiltrated by Edomites who lived in the southern borders, now known as Idumea after the siege of Nebuchadnezzar. 


Number two, we need to realize that after seven years of exile in Babylon some of the tribe of Judah returned with the priest and scribe Ezra and Nehemiah.  After 70 years we had some of the good figs that came back to Judah and to Palestine and Jerusalem.  Remember how they rebuilt the wall.  Nehemiah was in charge of rebuilding the wall, and I think they did it in something like 150 days.  But not all of them returned.  Some of the Jews or some of the tribe of Judah stayed over in Babylon.  But with them that returned brought another concept of the law with them.  While they were in there, a lot of changes were made.  A lot of things happened.  Some of these good figs became corrupted by the Babylonian mysteries while they were there.  And they brought back a book, not the Torah, now the book they called the Talmud.  It was a little bit different.  Oh, It had the law of God in there, but it had a lot of other things in there, too.  They brought back the Babylonian mystery customs and a new religious concept that teaching through Rabbi's and meeting places called synagogues and not temples.  And the religion became known as Judaism.  Believe it or not brethren, that's where it came from.  Just like Catholicism.


During Christ's time, who were the religious leaders?  Did they have any influence on Rome at that time?  Yes they did.  As a matter of fact, the conqueror's there often referred to these people before they did anything.  They had so much power there religiously.  Christ constantly referred to the Pharisees, Sadducees and the Scribes and these were the religious leaders of that time.  Some were members of the Sanhedrin, which the Supreme Court of Judah.  That's how powerful these people were.  At this point I am going to show you a very fascinating encounter that Jesus Christ had with these people, and now maybe brethren you will be able to see why he spoke to them in the manner in which he did.  For many years I have thought to myself, how can he talk to these great religious people like this.  But he was really calling them snakes and vipers and hypocrites, why?  What had they done?  Who were they that they would receive such a recrimination from the mouth of Jesus Christ of Nazareth?  Let's notice after Verse 12 of John, the 8th chapter.  John 8:13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true. Right off the bat they called Jesus Christ a liar.  You have made some statements, but your statements simply are not true.  On what basis?  On their basis, not on the Torah, but on the Talmud and on the Babylonian customs that they brought along. 14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go. In other words, you don't even understand, how can you stand there and say that my record is not true.  They didn't even know really who they were when it get's right down to it. 15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. 16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. John 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. 19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. Verse 19. Now why did they bring this up?  This thing about father's, this is a big thing with them.  The first thing they asked Jesus is who is your father, where is your father.  Let's go down now to John 8:27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. In other words, they weren't speaking of God the Father here. 28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. Now in 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;  So there were some of the Jews who did believe Christ, that He was the Son of God. 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. But notice the answer of the Pharisees.  33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, (That was their father.  That's what they were goading Christ about.  Who was your father?  We're Abraham's seed! Abraham was our father)  and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? We have never been in bondage, how can you make us free?  Contempt.  The other contempt that these people were showing for the Son of God.


Now let's notice this.  In the Pharisees answer to Jesus "we be of Abraham's seed" that word seed is sperma.  It means that they were out of Abraham's loin and yes they were.  They were out of Abraham's loins, they were out of Abraham's seed.  What did they mean by that statement they were never in bondage?  Did that mean they were never in captivity, that they were never in exile, never in slavery under another nation, another people or a group of people?  Were they never in Assyria, were they never in Babylon, were they never in Egypt?  The question is, just who went into bondage?  Israel, or Esau?  Who went into bondage, Israel or Esau?  All of Abraham's sperma, which is the Greek word which is used here for seed.  The Bible tells us that Jacob or Israel that went into slavery.  Israel went into Assyria didn't they, into slavery.  Some of Judah went into Babylon but didn't go into Assyria.  But the Bible states that all of the 12 tribes of Israel that were left went into Egypt, didn't they?  But I am going to read you some stuff here that is just going to blow your mind now.  It's right out of this book, it's Max I. Demont.  The Indestructible Jews.  The Jewish God in History.  You can get this at any book store, $6.95.  It will blow your mind when you go through it and read it, the lies in here he talks about against Israel.  I am going to quote from him on page 32.  "Except for the Bible, no source we know of makes any specific mention of this Jewish sojourn."  Who ever said it was a Jewish sojourn?  My Bible doesn't say anything about a Jewish sojourn into Egypt.  "and subsequently but only the spade of archaeologists have turned up convincing collarary or interesting deductions, evidence that these events did take place.  But the in gathering of the Jews into Egypt by Joseph in the 16th century, B.C. until the outgathering of the Jews," not of Israel, but of the Jews, "from Egypt under Moses into the 12th century, there is a 400 years silence."  "The Bible compresses these four centuries into a few sentences.  What portion of this period did the Jews in Egypt live in freedom and what portion in slavery and what religion did they practice.  What language did they speak?  Was there intermarriages, how did they maintain their Judaism as slaves in Egypt? " What this does not say is that the history of the Bible proves that Judaism did not even exist until after the Babylonian exile.  Here's a man whose talking about Judaism coming out of Egypt, but these are already people who are steeped into Judaism, but no they were not.  They certainly were not.  This was not until after the Babylonian exile that we even have a mention of Judaism.  Many years after Egyptian exile, and this is a major lie of the religion of Judaism, brethren.  And you think Catholicism is an enemy, I'm going to tell you something, so is Judaism, because they are both out of Babylon.  I know a lot of people are going to get any for my making that statement, but it is a true statement.  It is right out of your Bible.  I have given you many, many scriptures. 

Let's notice how he continues, does not mention Jacob or Israel.  He continues on page 32 and 33, he says, "not all the Jews left Canna to go into Egypt with Joseph."  Oh they didn't?  Then God's a liar, isn't He? Because my Bible said the whole works went, including the father, Jacob.  All 12 tribes went in there, but he says not all of the Jews left Canna to go into Egypt with Joseph, many remained behind surviving the famine and keeping their covenant with Jehovah.  What covenant did Judah ever make with Jehovah?  And what did they ever stay behind for?  Surviving a famine.  I think he might be mixed up with Babylon, don't you?  I think he's a little bit mixed up, I think he's got his times and his dates a little bit mixed up.  I ask myself how is that for the big lie.  What covenant has Judah ever made?  Judah has never made a separate covenant with Jehovah, it was Abraham who did.  And he states, this remnant of Jews still known as Hebrews remained free men while their brothers were enslaved in Egypt.  Can you believe that?  We were free men.  We were never in bondage.  Who do you think we are talking about now, brethren?  We were never in bondage.  It says we be free men.  Who was this remnant Jew?  Unfortunantly, Mr. Demont had his dates about 600 years before Judaism when he refers to Egypt and not Babylon as its source and beginning.  But that's what's in our history today.  And eventually that's what most of the world is going to believe.  Both Israel, Jacob and Esau are Abraham's seeds or progeny.  But it was Jacob, not Esau who went into slavery and it was through Jacob that this birthright was passed, wasn't it.  From Abraham to Isaac to Jacob and Esau never had a part in it.  He sold it.  In the Bible it states that not any of Jacob's children stayed behind, even Jacob himself, the father went into Egypt to live and he died there.  I think Mr. Demont might be hiding his Edomite beginnings here just a little bit.


Let's continue in John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. (And now notice the answer he gives to these people.)  37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed;(In other words, I know who you are)  but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. 38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. (Was that the father Abraham or now is there another father coming into point of view.)  39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. (In other words you would follow the covenant if you were Abraham's children.  He said, ya, you're Abraham's seed, there is no doubt about that, but you are not his children.)  40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.  


Let's continue now in John 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; Now this was the next thing they used to do.  First they bragged about having Abraham as their father, then they condemned Jesus Christ as a bastard.  And I'm sorry, that's the word you have to use.  Illegitimate.  And they said, we be not born of fornication.  They were calling it right to his face.  And Judaism today still says the same thing.  There are some books in that new book store over there, over on Dell Road now.  There are some books in there on Judaism that would just blow your mind.  Some of the things that they talk about as far as Jesus Christ is concerned, and modern day Judaism.  And he says we have but one Father, even God.  We have but one Father, even God.  And it continues on.  Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.


And now in John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Now can we see where the lies come from and the false apostles he is talking about back in Revelations?  The same liar.  The same Satan the devil.  That's what he is talking about here.


In Revelation 2 and 3 the apostles who were not apostles but who were liars.  That's what Christ is talking about.  Another question, how could they be Abraham's seed but not his children and why did they say they were never in bondage?  It's simple.  These were not the children of the covenant.  They simply were not.  Not the covenant that God made with Abraham.  Mr. Demont said he made a covenant with Judah.  My Bible doesn't say anything about a covenant that God made with Judah.  The covenant was made with Abraham of Isaac and of Jacob.  The covenant people in Esau came from the loins of Abraham and Isaac but Esau never went into captivity or bondage.  He never did.  Jacob did.  Israel included, Judah did.  The Idumeans did not.  They did not go into Assyria they did not go into Babylon or into Egypt but Judiah did.  The tribes of Judah did.  The Idumeans were mixed with the Jews that were left behind in Babylon did not.  After the birth of the twins, Jacob supplanted Esau as the heir of the birthright Esau had been trying to get it back ever since that time and for now it appears that they have it.  Esau through Abraham's seed was not the child of the covenant.  We know that for sure now, I think.  And neither were the Pharisees.  They were not God's true ministers. Idumea never went into captivity or bondage.  They were proselyte Jews, a mixture of little Judah and Edom and it became Idumea.


Let's go over to John 10:24 Notice what he says to these people.   Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. (See, they didn't accept him either.  He said if you be the Christ, you show us just how you are, just how you come about being this Messiah you claim you are.)  25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. (This was not of the God's flock that he is talking of here now.  These were not the pure Judean's, if we can use that term.)  27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: John, Chapter 10.  Verse 24. My


Let's go over to Romans, Chapter 9, a very fascinating chapter in regard to this now.  Verse 4.  Paul is talking here now.  He says, Ro 9:4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

    6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. (He is talking about the Pharisees here again.  He's talking about the Edomians.) 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.


Notice in Ro 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.That's who is talking about here.  The whole chapter is about Jacob and Esau.  And he is talking about how these are not Israelites, these are not children of God, they are not of my sheep. 


Let's go over to Matthew 3.  A very, very interesting encounter that's made by John the Baptist.  Now here is another individual.  Why would this man confront the religious hierarchy of this nation in the manner in which he did?  Let's notice in     Mt 3:1 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. honey. 5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, 6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. And he was baptizing through all of Judiah. But now notice in Mt 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, (They are the religious hierachary.  And here's little old John the Baptist who is nothing as far as they are concerned. He says..) who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: Bring forth preach therefore repentance.  Right off the bat he shows them because he knows what their canned answer is going to be.  He says, Think not to say within yourself we have Abraham as our father.  It's identifying who he is talking to here, isn't it?  We have Abraham as our father.  That was their canned answer brethren.  That was their source of power.  That was the foundation that they claimed to be the chosen people.  Because they were Abraham's seed.  But these were not children of the covenant.  They were not Abraham's children, if I can use that term.  Remember how I told you how Kind Herod was an Edomite Jew, an Idumean....  Who killed John the Baptist?  King Herod did.  King Herod killed him.  Now perhaps we can see why Jesus talked to the scribes and the Pharisees the way he did and why Jesus said, you who say you are Jews but who are not.  These people who were the bad figs of little Judah were left behind by King Nebuchadnezzar and intermarried with the Edomites then infiltrated Judah even further upon the return from Babylon.  Some of them Judah already had become steeped in the Babylonian mysteries. 


Let's notice another encounter that Christ had and now we'll find out what some of those Babylonian mysteries are.  Matthew 15.  This is some of the stuff that was brought back in when these people returned. Mt 15:1 Again it's the same old group, the same old group.   Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2 Why do thy disciples transgress (the holy scriptures of God? ) It doesn't say that does it? Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? You know what he is talking about here?  It wasn't the Torah, it was the Talmud.  Those were the tradition of the elders.  They had just enough of the Torah to make it look real.  To make it look like this was it.  But they added so much to it, it's almost like some of these new translations, you can hardly recognize the original text.  This is what has happened here.  He says, Mt 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. You won't find that in the Torah.  This is junk that they added here to make a body, to make the law of God a bondage on the people.  And the thing is filled with it.  I have read it.  Some of the things, even before they had sex, you can't believe some of things that were put on them, and what they couldn't do for hours afterwards or whatever it might be.  The don'ts and don'ts and don'ts that they put on things that God gave people to be good.  This is what we've put upon these people. 


And notice what he says in Mt 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? He's talking to the Pharisees and the Sadducees here.  He says why do you do this.  Notice in verse 6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. They literally destroyed the word of God is what they had done here.  And notice he says, Mt 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, (What was their mouth?)   and honoureth me with their lips;  (What was their lips?)  but their heart is far from me. You ever heard of the oral law?  Well, you have, haven't you.  That's what he is talking about here.  The oral law the came out of Babylon that was adopted by these people that became their Bible, if I can use that term.  Some had feigned conversion and actually brought these concepts to the church of God as false apostles.  These traditions.  You know why the council was formed in Acts 15?  The major was circumcision, wasn't it?  And that was one of the first things these people did, when the Edomites came in, the first thing John Hyrcanus did was force them into circumcision and they continued that ritual throughout, to the point where it is said that unless that you are circumcised after the manner of Moses you cannot be saved.  This is the false Gospel.  Now Jesus Christ had come saying that I am the way, the truth and the life and he who believes in me shall be saved, will have eternal life.  But these people say oh no, no, no, no, no.  Unless you are circumcised you cannot be saved.  Now you wonder why Paul says circumcise your heart?  He got that out of the Book of Deuteronomy.  But throughout all of the Book of Galatia, which they say is the book against the law, no it isn't.  It's a book against the Talmud.  It's the book against all this stuff they have written about unless you can be circumcised you can't be saved.  You might put this in your notes.  Galatian 6, Verses 12-15.  That covers quite a bit of it right in there.


We'll continue here in Matthew, Chapter 15.  He talks about them as being hypocrites.  Talking about them worshiping with their mouth.  He says in Verse 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.   In other words, what you are teaching is not out of God.  In Matthew 23 he talks about how they sit in Moses' seat.  They knew the Torah.  And whenever they preach the Torah, when they preach Moses, that you do.  He says don't do after the works because they live by the Talmud.  That he says don't do, because that's not going to be good for you.  As long as they preach the law of God, the Torah, that is as you do.  But when they deviate and start preaching the Talmud, that you don't do.  Max I. Demont's book at page 71 says the Babylonian Jews introduced the concept of a synagogue into Palestine where it existed side by side with the Temple.  Two religions going on Judaism and Hebrewism and now Christianity was coming in, three I guess you want to say.  Judaism and Hebrewism were existing and I will have some more to cover on that.


Those of the good figs Judah brought back, this new intellect and culture over the years Idumeans and the bad figs also absorbed it into their religious concepts.  They also absorbed it.  And from Babylon sprang Judaism just like Catholicism came from Babylon.  The Talmud, in the synagogue, the Rabbis, and the teachers of the oral law all came out of Babylon.  That's what is being taught today as Hebrewism.  Now you wonder why Christ said call no man Rabbi or father?  You see now what he was getting across here?  It's all there, brethren.  It's been covered up for so many years.  We never really realized what was happening there.  You see that even with Judah, the good figs, not everyone came back with a Hebrew Old Testament belief that Ezra and Nehemia did.  It says at page 18 of the "Jewish God in History" it says most actually chose to remain in Babylon.  Now there are only a handful of Jews who came back.  Many of the remained in Babylon and started a whole brand new culture over there.  Now we can see the mixing of an old Judian custom with those of Babylon, the Idumeans all becoming one religion known as Judaism.  But it all boiled down to just like John Hyrcanus, who had converted the Edomite Idumeans to their Hebrew custom and practices and circumcision was one of the major things that they taught about.  Upon his death, the Pharisees, though small in number became the dominant sect of what had been called Judaism and the Pharisees and Judaism grew together until Christ came.  And that is in his book.  That's what he has in his book.  Now we can see that throughout Christ's ministry the Pharisees and the Scribes constantly denying Jesus as the Son of God even to the point of accusing Him of blasphemy which was punishable by stoning and there are some ministers who now think that Christ might have been stoned as well as put on the stake at some time between the time He was taken captive and the time that He died, because of blasphemy, which the Pharisees claimed He had done.  For the Talmud and their God is one God.  Where do you suppose they got this, our God is one God thing?  Not out of the Bible.  This Adoni or Adon, the God of the Babylonians who was the one God.  This is the one the Pharisees were bragging about.  The concept of denying the duality of the God in the Old Testament Torah allowed them then to deny the concept of the Son of God, didn't it?  Because my Bible says that the Son of God was one of the God's of the Old Testament.  He was the creator God.  Judaism will not accept that.  They will not accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah or as the Son of God.  Christ constantly challenged the Pharisees on the interpretation of law and he called it the tradition of your fathers.  He was accusing them of taking things which were not true and trying to make it appear as true.


At Matthew 5, 6 and 7 we find Christ trying to intercept, if I can use that term, their additions to the law and applying the spiritual aspect of the law to what God wants to live by.  In Roger Rusk's book, "The Other Ends of the World" which I have a copy of right here in my library, he says the term Judeo-Christian in a misnomer yet there is little in common between Judaism and Christianity.  And boy when you get down into the scriptures, you will find out that that is really true.  There is very little in common.  It is evident today, in the 20th century that Judaism hates Christianity and it hates Jesus, whom they call the bastard son of a prostitute and those are exactly the terms that they used.  I watched a thing, one of Messianic Jews was having a debate with a Rabbi.  The top Rabbi of the United States, and this Messianic Jew preacher was literally tying this Rabbi in knots to the point I thought this Rabbi was going to start foaming at the mouth.



Yes, the Pharisees, though small in number became the dominant sector of what is called Judaism.  Pharasisim and Judaism grew together until Christ came.  Now we can see that throughout Christ's ministry, the Pharisees and the Scribes constantly designed Jesus as the Son even to the point of accusing him of blasphemy.  They accused Christ of blasphemy, which of course, was punishable by death by stoning.  With the Talmud and their God is one God and that they brought back also from Babylon, because it was at that time, the Scribe began to change the name of Jehovah to Adoni.  Even in the holy scriptures, which means one God.  So they were trying to destroy the duality of the God by calling him Adoni or Adon, which was the God of the Babylonians.  This concept denied the duality of the godhead in the Torah which also then denied the concept of Jesus Christ because there could not have been another God come out of one God is what they were saying.  Well, Christ constantly challenged the Pharisees and their interpretation of the law.  He called it the tradition of your fathers.  It had nothing to do with the Torah or the law of God.  There's was not really then the teaching of God but it was a rabbinical teachers and the scribes who brought it back from Babylon. 


Now, in Matthew 5, 6 and 7 Christ counters their concept of the full letter of the law with their additions, to the spiritual intent of which God gave the law in the first place.  Now maybe you can go back and get a new viewpoint as you go through Matthew 5, 6 and 7, what Christ was really doing here and why he had to do it.  Notice in Matthew 5, Verse 20, I'm not going to turn there, but right it down, he says the righteous of the Pharisees was not God's righteousness.  He condemns the righteousness of the Pharisees because it was self righteousness, it was not God's righteousness.  In Roger Rusk's book, "The Other End of the World" he states the term Judeo-Christian is a misnomer. as there was little in common between them. Judaism hates Christianity, it really does.  It hates Jesus.  And they tell terrible, terrible, dirty stories about Jesus and his words and his mother.  And they refuse to accept him as the Messiah.  Some will say, well, he was a good man, he might have been a prophet or something of that nature, but he certainly was not the one that we were looking for.  In John 8, 41 the Pharisees said we are not born of fornication the way Jesus was.  They still have that same concept today.  You might want to read Vai Kahn's book, "The Philosophy of Judaism", which corroborates that statement.  That's a book you might be able to check out at most of the libraries in your home towns. 


I'd like to quote from the late chief Rabbi of the United States, Stephen F. Wise, where he says the return from Babylon ends the adoption of Babylonian Talmud marked the end of Hebrewism and the beginning of Judaism.  This is not stuff I am making up out of my own mind, this is stuff that is recorded history, that it written down and these are men who are of this very religious beliefs.  They were writing about themselves.  Dr. J.P. Douglas, in his article on Judaism in the "New Bible Dictionary" says that Judaism is the religion of the Jews in contrast to the Old Testament.  Upon a full study of it, it would seem to be natural to start with the call of Abraham, this would be solely as an indispensable introduction.  However, Judaism should be regarded as beginning with the Babylonian exile.  He did then go back into the slavery of Egypt like Max I. Demont brought out when he talked about the Jews supposedly in slavery.  Judaism is a very clever counterfeit to Hebrewism just as Catholicism is a counterfeit to Christianity, brethren.  It truly is.  Both are from Baal and from the Babylonian mysteries.  Now perhaps we can see where Christ was coming from in saying those who say they are Jews are not, both physically and spiritually or religiously.  It did identify those who infiltrated the Church of God as false apostles and liars.  After 70 A.D. and the fall of Jerusalem to the Romans, we can see these same people being dispersed and fleeing Palestine which is called the diaspora.  In the book "The Thirteenth Tribe" by Arthur Kessler, he writes, some call the Askenazim or which became known as the Eastern European Jews, moved up into the Ukraine and into Poland by way of the Cassian and Black Seas where they intermarried with the Khazar's, these are the people who settled in Germany and western Europe and into Russia.  It is the descendants of these people who now live in Palestine and this man is one of those descendants.  He's not writing against them, and he is one of them.  This is merely a history of his people that he is writing down, this Arthur Kessler.  It is not a condemnation.  He is merely trying to trace their steps as to where he came from.


Another group called the Sepharad, remember I mentioned that name back there in the Old Testament, the Sepharad or the Sepharim, went south into Egypt and across northern Africa into Spain, this was where most of these came from that settled in the new world, were from Spain, they settled into South America, into the Central and West Indies and eventually into North America, the ones that we call Jews today.  Thus their groups migrated into Asia minor or Turkey where the seven churches existed.  Very, very interesting when you really get into the history and find out where these people went to and who they became.  But that's another story.  In "The Thirteenth Tribe" Arthur Kessler states that of the 11 million people who lived in Israel at that time, I think it was around 1976 that he wrote this book, he said that not over 500,000 are of pure Judean stock.  Of 11 million people, not over 500,000 are of pure Judean stock.  Few, if any, held any public office of those Judians.  It was all controlled pretty much by the Ashkenazim and Sepharim.  And Max I. Demont says the Jews in America, he states in 1978, of the 12 to 13 million Jews in Palestine, 10 to 11 million are of Ashkenazim and only the remainder are of the Sepharim, which are the ones that went into the new world.  Could this have then created the difference between the Orthodox and the non-Orthodox in Judaism, I wonder.  The problems that they are having over there in Judah today. 


In any event, it makes Paul's writings even much easier to comprehend because we need to watch now the events as we study through these bibles and through these writings of Paul and the other Apostles, perhaps now we can quote these tie ins. Now how come Paul was constantly fighting against the law?  He wasn't.  He was fighting against Judaism, he was fighting against the Talmud, he was fighting against those who were corrupting the Torah or the law of God.  Remember how he keeps saying, the law is holy and just and good.  It was.  The Ten Commandments were holy and just and good.


So, I hope that now you have gotten something out of this sermon.  Again, like I said this is not meant to be anti-semitic.  I have nothing against these people physically.  I do have a lot against their religion.  But I have a lot against Catholicism, too, because I know that that is a false religion.  I don't hate the people.  I think it is time to really begin to realize just what is going on out there in the world today. 


Now as you go through the New Testament even, perhaps you can see what Jesus Christ was fighting, all during His ministry, as you can see, the terrible urgency that these Apostles had as they went from people to people, from country to country, because they were just a step behind these other guys who were going in there trying to disrupt the Church of God.  And in the end, Christ refers to them, Jews who are not Jews, Apostles who are not Apostles but who are false Apostles and liars.  And brethren, I believe this is now infiltrating the Church of God and I think the Mother Church has already been infiltrated by those people.  And you can quote me on that.


As written and delivered by Harold Cormany 9/7/96


Transcribed by Ken Hoeck 1998